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2019-09-23
[1 reply Last reply 2019-09-23 8:16 AM]
Merrily 2 years ago
I read it and made comments about things seeming off for one or more reasons.
Instead of attempting to review them to see if anyone else has those issues or
other, etc. there seems to be a desire to just push it through. I have never
seen any presented to any board or committee I have been on or worked with as a
volunteer or place of employment board with this many grammatical or other
errors just push to be fixed at a later date. Why not go through an actual
review and discuss not that we have a redline to review? The work done was a
good starting point to move forward.
Marianne
Pease 9:43 AM
Good
morning. Or afternoon as the case may be. I’d just like to express my deep
disappointment in the behavior of certain members of the board. The vitriol
both here in ‘public’ and being cast in private is frankly appalling. I’d also
like to remind everyone that the primary reason for having a 15 day discussion
period and voting period for all motions is so everyone can have a chance to
participate without being required to be online 24/7. I have a family, friends,
and responsibilities. I am not being paid enough to deal with hatefulness and
abuse on weekends. I would much rather spend that time enjoying my children’s
church concert, tabletop gaming session, and trying to pinpoint whatever
Mysterious Allergy® has sent me running to the doctors and hospitalized me
twice already this summer.
Yes,
motions were made this weekend. I am reviewing what has been said and will get
to them in a reasonable time frame.
I
would also like to point out again that the proposed guidelines have been in
front of the Board and membership since Costume Con. @Merrily herself posted
them to GCFCG’s facebook group and asked for feedback
after I asked for feedback on them. I’ve personally shared them with others
when the subject of masquerades have come up, and solicited opinions and
feedback. They haven’t been hidden anywhere. Now six months later a vote was
called for and the apocalypse is upon us because of it. It is extremely
difficult to get volunteers who are active participants in this organization
and the crickets I got for feedback on the guidelines draft is pretty standard
whenever I’ve asked for volunteers on anything. I have been begging for
literally years for volunteers for our committees, to encourage chapter members
to volunteer for our committees.
If
the Board wants to send the Guidelines back to committee that’s fine, if anyone
wants to be a member of the committee, GREAT! I’m genuinely thrilled to have
people participating as long as they can do so politely. In the meantime, a
motion was made and seconded on the proposed guidelines. If you don’t want them
adopted, please vote no when the time comes.
Above
all, please remember that this is a hobby and supposed to be fun. We are all
volunteers here. Please be respectful and treat others with kindness - the way
you would like to be treated.
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Elaine 2
years ago
Here's one Point of View, and I'm hoping my thoughts transfer to text properly.
Also, bear with my typing as my vision still is sketchy.The
ICG was not create to become a regulatory agency for the costuming
community. The last (2010) revision of the Guidelines was very carefully worded
to try to avoid any idea that we were trying to 'rule the world', as it were.
It feels like the tone of the proposed Guideline revisions change
that, and imply that in fact we DO want to have authority in the community.
Here's my question: Does the General Membership WANT that?
The BoD cannot just decide to change the role of the
ICG in the greater community as a whole.
If the Board feels that this would be a beneficial thing to have,
then the General Membership MUST be included in the conversation, as this
affects them too.
We have members saying that they have heard that:
-New chapters will not join us UNLESS we are an authority
-Prior chapters have left BECAUSE we were perceived as TRYING to be an
authority
-Masquerades WILL use our Guidelines ONLY if we act as an authority
-Masquerades have STOPPED using our Guidelines because of the perception we
were trying to be an authority
Opposing opinions and views there. This is not a decision to be
made lightly.
Should the General Membership agree to the idea of the ICG moving
towards becoming that 'recognized authority' in the costuming world, I am of
the very strong opinion that an OUTSIDE attorney, NOT paralegal, with
International, Non-Profit, AND Discrimination backgrounds be hired to review
the ByLaws, Standing Rules, and to assist in drafting
the Guidelines to be appropriate across all venues.
I don't see that there is any other way to assure that the ICG is
covered in all legal aspects in this issue.(sorry, hit 'send' before my
thoughts were complete) (edited)
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Marianne Pease 2
years ago
We aren't on the free plan. We are a nonprofit and have the Standard plan for
free.
Betsy R. Marks 2 years ago
Sharing this information with Kevin. Thanks.
Also sent to the channel
Jeanine Swick 2 years ago
May we have the link to the information that documents that? I want that placed
in the Treasurer's files for future reference.
Marianne Pease 2 years ago
Here's a screenshot of the billing page. The $50 credit was complementary. This
was also all discussed years ago when we first discussed and voted on Slack as
a platform.
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Jeanine Swick 2 years ago
This is not what I asked for. It only states that they gave us a $50 credit.
What is the credit to be used for? Any billing needs to include the
ICG Treasurer even if they only gave us a credit. Who gets to use that credit
and for what? The actual information for nonprofit accounts needs to
be available to the treasurer and ALL the BoD, not a
select few. A screen shot is useless. I want to see a working link.
Also sent to the channel
Marianne Pease 2 years ago
I'm not sure what you actually want here. The screenshot says we are on the
complementary nonprofit Standard plan. Ie.
We won't ever use the $50, it was just given to us for free because we signed
up to use Slack.
Dawn McKechnie 2:22 PM
a wild Dawn has appeared!
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Mera Rose 2 years ago
We totally need Pokémon emojis in here!
Dawn McKechnie 2:22 PM
it attacks with Canadianness