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#boardofdirectors (Slack) <2020-07-23 2020-08-02>
Randy
Smith 8:31
AM
Okay,
I was under the impression that we had moved away from Slack. SInce I had gotten my new computer I had not even bothered
to log into Slack.
I
sent an email to those I could reach, and I want to share it with the rest of
the ICG BOD, as I feel something needs to be addressed.
please
keep in mind that when I wrote this this morning I was under the impression
that the ICG had moved off of Slack, and I was trying to check in repeatedly,
only for my emails to be sent back to me saying that I could not send emails to
that group. Here is the email I sent this morning to those I had the addresses
for:
"I am still trying to check in
This has become FAR harder than it needs/should
be.
I would like to make a formal request that we revisit this move made by the BOD
on where to meet.
When our group joined, Slack was a simple
meeting place to gather and discuss things, share ideas and chat. Now not only
can our member not do any of those things, I have just spent twenty minutes
trying to figure out how to check in.
In my opinion, moving away from a system like
Slack was a horrible move for the ICG, and we should definitely revisit that
decision.
Also, I have been trying to contact this ein charge about getting our chapter’s 501c3 status (GEL
letter?) taken care of as well as access to the other benefits of us becoming a
chapter of the ICG such as “tech soup” and other discounts supposedly available
to us. All to no avail.
I know there are those in this group who didn’t
care for Mera and her leadership while President… but
she was helpful and she got things done by working with us. Since her
departure, not a single person has contacted our chapter to offer aid in any
way and any attempts by us to get much needed info have been met with near
silence from our current management team.
I recognize that with Covid-19 things are not
only harder to accomplish, but people have become less motivated in general. I
just hope this message reaches anyone, and that they can relay this info to
those who can/are willing to do something about it.
We joined the ICG with the hope of becoming
part of a larger family, but currently we feel like forgotten second-cousins.I am sending this to every email address I can in
the hopes that someone reads it. I thank you for your time."
I
also wanted to share that the ONLY reason I found out that we were still on
Slack was that I contacted Mera again to see if she
could help us contact anyone... and she immediately offered her aid. I have
seen the way Mera has been treated by the ICG, and I
want you to know that from my dealings with her, she has been nothing but kind
and helpful... even when it was to help someone contact a group that had
treated her so poorly, she did not hesitate to help. That, to me speaks a lot
about her, her character, and the character of those who I've witnessed within
the ICG for the way they have treated her, and for the general way our entire
chapter have been treated.
Our
chapter wants to be a part of the ICG, we searched you out... saw that we could
mutually help each other and after talking with you online made the choice to
join. The ICG can be much more than it currently is. We can become a huge
family of liked minded individuals who share love and knowledge with one
another... but currently we are not doing that, and that needs to change.
I
want to hear from you guys, what can we do to make that change? how to we
become greater as a whole? move past the in-fighting and the squabbling? and
grow to become the best ICG that we have ever been?
13 replies Last reply 2020-08-01 12:28 PM]
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
This was so well put. I believe the ICG
could be so much more and was excited to help move the organization forward.
I'm sorry that you've had such a hard time getting anything done. Slack
was a wonderful resource and there's a reason why it's a top business tool currently.If I can ever help you with your cosplay life,
let me know. I'm sorry that I am no longer in a position to help you with
the ICG. You are amazing and I know your community is going to do great
things for your area. If you haven't already, feel free to friend me on
social media. ((HUGS))
kevin.p.roche 2 years ago
I have replied in the new board meeting google
group.
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
Kevin, you need to make sure that Randy is in
the group as he doesn't appear to know how to get information. It would
probably be wise to post a response here just to ensure that he can see it.
kevin.p.roche 2 years ago
Hi Jacalyn -- his note did came into the google
meeting group as well, that's how I was able to respond there! The zombie
YG messages are definitely confusing people.
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
He still seems to be having trouble contacting
people and it would probably be wise to include the response here for anyone
who doesn't have access to the google meeting group. It is clear from his
post that there's definitely some sort of a communication error. Ensuring
the response is in as many places as possible is the best solution, especially
given what has been said in his post here regarding how Slack is a more stable
communication platform accessible to all instead of being difficult for people
to be able to communicate on.
kevin.p.roche 2 years ago
I also cc'd him directly.
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
So you are saying not having the response
accessible to all is your plan. Got it. Thanks for clarifying
kevin.p.roche 2 years ago
Please read the DM I just sent you.
kevin.p.roche 2 years ago
I haven't posted it here yet because the
ownership transfer of the workspace from Mera to the
ICG never went through properly.
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
THere's no need for DM's
. If you wanted it to be public, you'd make it public. It's
fine. You guys have made your stance quite lear
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
Eh, do what you want. You can post it
here if you want. What are you afraid of?I
consider this more a place to chill and talk cosplay with people at this point
since the powers that be in the ICG leadership don't want use the space. Which
means the slack team can actually be an enjoyable place like every other slack
team I'm on. I'm good with the no drama and let's just talk cosplay
life.
kevin.p.roche 2 years ago
I've reached her and we're trying (again) to
fix it
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
The owner of the workspace should have
absolutely nothing to do with posting a timely response. That's on you,
bro. But seriously, do what you want. Unless the vote in the spring
released you from being president... then let the president do what they
want. Mera's been out since February and trying
to move on with her life which is good. She needs to heal from the
garbage board members did to her.
Patrick 9:59 AM
I
got a request today in my Yahoo Mail, to do my monthly check-in at the Yahoo
Group. I followed the link, but the post bounced, and I was told I no
longer had authorization to post to that group. I guess that makes me one
of the unpopped kernels in the popcorn ball of
life... Patrick from Chicago.
5 replies Last reply 2020-08-01 11:01 PM]
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
Yahoo may finally be dead.
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
Even Peewee Herman's death in Buffy the Vampire
Slayer was shorter than the death throes of Yahoo Groups. lol
Patrick 2 years ago
Zombie reminders are still undead today...
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
Zombies are cool.
kevin.p.roche 2 years ago
We turned off posting privileges in the old Yahoogroup for everyone precisely because of the zombie
calendar reminders. We're not sure if they'll go away even if we delete the
group outright.
Jeanine
Swick 11:29
AM
Posting
to Yahoo has been turned off. It was announced last month.
Mera Rose 12:38 PM
The
request has been sent (again) to have it transferred. I’m deleting the
app and as soon as it’s been transferred and I’ll be deleting my account
because I don’t need it. Y’all have my email. It may take a few
days to respond because I’m not on it often (rural internet) but you can get me
there or on FB messenger if you need something from me. Kevin should have
all the permissions he needs when the transfer request is done.
Hope everyone is healthy and happy. Be safe and be well.
5 replies Last reply 2020-08-04 8:16 AM]
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
I don't see how it even matters since all the business
has been moved off of Slack and is excluding people/making things apparently
very difficult. They made it clear they don't want to use slack so why
anyone is even making a big deal out of it is beyond me.
They just are using it as an excuse to not be
open and honest in their dealings which makes me wonder what they have against
Randy and his cosplay group other than he came in when they decided to try to
make up lies about other groups attempting to affiliate with the ICG.
What a shame.
I've been quite healthy and happy not having to
deal with the drama any more. I think it's been a really positive thing
and I'm starting to feel like maybe I can cosplay again now that some distance
has passed from everything last year when I was seriously debating never
cosplaying again to avoid these people. I realized that hte ICG is a very small fish in a very large ocean and
there's plenty of places to go where I am welcome to express myself and share
my cosplay. By the time Covid is over, I am hoping to have
found a place for me and my machines to set up shop so I can begin crafting
again.
I was so stressed out and depressed I didn't even
try to find someplace to help make masks which is a pretty sad state of affairs
IMHO.
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
Also, I'm fine with you keeping ownership of
this so we can still just have a place to chat cosplay. It's what it's
supposed to be about anyway. At least with things the way it is, I know
that there's people who will be able to access it to have that good chat.
I don't believe that will happen if it transfers.
Of course, I'm on so many slack teams because
it's only used by Fortune 500 companies and is one of the top business tools
out there that I can just not talk about cosplay and chill in those very
functional and professional groups.
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
Hehehehe Seriously told my
publisher about the leaving slack and his response was "But it's used by
fortune 500 companies." LOL. Yeah I know.
Also sent to the channel
kevin.p.roche 2 years ago
I will say this again:
Enterprise Slack, which is what my Fortune 500 employer uses
and costs thousands of dollars a year, has the necessary data and moderation
tools to be used as a business resource.
This version does not. I spoke with Slack support about this directly last
year. Without those protections, it is not an appropriate vehicle for
conducting business and holding business records, which is what an online board
meeting tool must do.
It is perfectly fine as a social media tool.
Any member in good standing of any chapter of the ICG may join the Board
Meeting google group as a viewer to watch the board discussions. Several
already have. That group (meeting@board.costume.org) may be subscribed to as an
email list, or accessed as a webforum.
(It is hosted via the corporate gSuite version of Google Groups, not the free version. Just
like with Slack, that difference provides the protections needed to conduct
business. )
Jacalyn Boggs 2 years ago
Eh, good enough for other non
profits, but do what you want. You've all made your
position quite clear to some of us. @Randy Smith, best of
luck!