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2020-01-22

 

Betsy R. Marks  4:47 AM

Has this document been reviewed through the Maryland Nonprofit resource and have they provided a report on its contents?

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
It was sent to their counsel as it was sent to the BoD, as discussed and agreed upon by the BoD on the 12-8-2019 BoD call.

 

Mera Rose  2 years ago
Once legal review is complete it will also be provided.

 

Betsy R. Marks  2 years ago

Thank you.

 

Mera Rose  2 years ago
No problem.

 

kevin.p.roche  10:17 AM

There is a conflict in the privacy policy (top of page 6) with our bylaws article IV Section 5. The bylaws state
the Corresponding Secretary or designee shall make a complete list of all the members, stating the address of each. The list shall be subject to inspection by any member at any time during usual business hours. In addition, any member may inspect it at the meeting.

I believe that to authorize the Corresponding Secretary to restrict access as described in the Policies manual draft would require a revision of our bylaws.

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
I agree, the bylaw does need to be updated.

 

Jeanine Swick  10:24 AM

This needs to be sent now to the MD Non-Profits along with the By-Laws, Standing Rules and the Articles of Incorporation. If they have been sent I would like to see proof that they were sent.

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
I’ve emailed the draft to Paddy Morton.  Feel free to email her to confirm.

 

Judy Mitchell  10:25 AM

Opening the full address list to any member at nearly any time sounds like a gross violation of privacy!

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
I’ve always thought that...  glad a privacy policy is being done to define access.

 

Judy Mitchell  2 years ago

But the policy cannot bypass the bylaws & standing rules. To make that change will, as Kevin says, require a revision of the bylaws. I dont believe you can do an end run around them like this.

 

Mera Rose  2 years ago
Not trying to do an end run.  The P&P is written in standard language for the laws and regulations of today, which means that if the BoD votes to adopt it, they will also have to modify or amend the standing rule that currently allows open access.

 

Mera Rose  2 years ago
Both will have to occur at the same time, or the standing rule will need to be modified first.  I leave it to the BoD to decide the best course of action.  This P&P is presented to address policies that are not currently part of our governance.  The BoD is the only body/party that can make a decision as to what to do with it.

 

Judy Mitchell  2 years ago

It's a bylaw, not an SR.

 

Mera Rose  2 years ago
Correct, forgive the mistype please.

 

Betsy R. Marks  10:27 AM

Modern privacy rules did not exist when our bylaws were written. Revising the bylaws and standing rules to bring everything into compliance with modern law will take major work. I would suggest that's a place to start.

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
Yep, totally agree.  This needs to be done ASAP.  Maybe a motion is in order to update the ones addressed by the P&P at the very least?

 

Jeanine Swick  10:30 AM

The treasurer also needs full access to all member information to keep the roster up to date. The corr-sect only is an old hanger on that was never corrected.

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
Nothing in the P&P limits access for the treasurer or elected officers, it just defines the use of the information.

 

Betsy R. Marks  10:34 AM

If a notice has to be mailed to each member (individually, not through the chapter) the Corresponding Secretary has to have access to those addresses. There are times when such notice should be sent this way. It's not the Treasurer who would send such notices out.Arguments that notices have not been sent out this way recently are besides the point.

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
I would agree.  And the Corresponding Secretary is supposed to be the one maintaining the list and access to it.

 

Betsy R. Marks  2 years ago

That's in part a holdover from when the Corresponding Secretary also sent out the CQ mailing list to the editor for delivery to members.

 

Mera Rose  2 years ago
Which makes sense for 30 years ago.  The P&P cannot address modification to the existing standing rule, which means that the existing standing rule will need to be modified and updated for the P&P to exist.

 

kevin.p.roche  2 years ago

It isn't a standing rule; it's a bylaw, which can only be amended by vote of all members.

 

Mera Rose  2 years ago
Yes, sorry - mistyped that twice on 2 different comments

 

Betsy R. Marks  10:46 AM

The issue is with giving all members access to that information.

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
No one would give that access to all members, I would hope, though that is how the current bylaw is written.

 

kevin.p.roche  2 years ago

It goes back to those good ol' days when we (ICG) were just starting... and doxxing and online stalking were not a thing.

 

There are still certain business/legal situations where the membership list must be produced, but that bylaw is definitely showing its age.

 

Betsy R. Marks  2:37 PM

Jan Price was part of the P&P Review Committee and wants to share a few suggested changes not reflected in the current version for you consideration.  She'll be joining the discussion with my blessing as her chapter representative.

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
Jan has a perspective that I would like to see considered by the BoD also.  Her comments should be viewable in the history of the Google doc.

 

kevin.p.roche  3:18 PM

Hi everyone -- popping up as sergeant at arms for a minute as we are only few weeks away from our pre-Costume-Con adjournment.

 

The actual wording of Standing Rule 17.F reads:  No new motion can be made at any type of electronic, e-mail or Internet meeting thirty (30) days or fewer before the date of the Annual Meeting, and no vote on a motion can begin fifteen (15) days or fewer before the date of the Annual Meeting. If the President determines that debate on a motion will not conclude fifteen (15) days or fewer before the date of the Annual Meeting, or if there is no business before the Board thirty (30) days or fewer before the date of the Annual Meeting, the President may declare an adjournment of the meeting until the Annual Meeting.

 

Presuming the Annual meeting is to be held on March 13th, thirty days before that is February 12, 2020. Fifteen days is February 27th, 2020This means that any motions or amendments to motions made after February 12th will not be voted on in the online meeting until after the Annual Meeting.

 

If, for instance, we hope to pass a motion to adopt a version of the Policy and Procedures manual before the Annual Meeting, which might entail revisions or amendments to it, I'd urge you to spin off a conversation thread here to agree on the wording of the motion before formally submitting said motion. That way you (as a group) can edit the motion language without kicking in the motion amendments clock, which would very likely push it into the adjournment window. The final edited motion must be made before February 12.

 

Mera Rose  3:58 PM
We now have a candidate who has been nominated or volunteered for each office.  The current ballot stands as follows:

 

President:  Kevin Roche
Vice President:  Jan Price
Treasurer:  Jeanine Swick
Corresponding Secretary:  Ann Ware
Recording Secretary:  Anne Davenport

 

If anyone would like to nominate or volunteer to run against these candidates, please email icg-president@costume.org.

 

I greatly appreciate those called to serve and their future contributions to the organization.  I invite each candidate to respond to this message with a short bio so that every member can learn about those who have volunteered  to continue the legacy of this great organization.

 

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Jeanine Swick  2 years ago

Ann Wise has yet to respond with what her chapter affiliation is. She is listed on the Costumers Guild West website as their corresponding secretary.  CGW has not been part of the ICG since 2005, so at this time she is ineligible to run for an ICG office. If I recieve a chapter report with her on it and dues paid that will chane her status.

 

Anne Davenport  4:07 PM

About the BoD meeting for CostumeCon:  I think we need to request electrical outlets for our laptops.  My battery ran out during the last BoD meeting, so I'd like to make sure I can plug in.  I am doing a workshop at CC and they are sending out e-mail now asking if people need tech for their panels --- the e-mail is:    cc38panelworkshop@gmail.com  .  Is anyone else planning anything that needs a projector?  I'm not, but if you are, you should say so now.  I could send e-mail with a request for outlets, but I didn't want to send anything without posting here, first in case someone else has already contacted them.

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
I won’t be there, but would ask that someone who has connections with CostumeCon (perhaps @Betsy R. Marks) to convey this request.

 

kevin.p.roche  2 years ago

I will be there. I'll drop a note to them.

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kevin.p.roche  2 years ago

email sent to said address.

 

Betsy R. Marks  2 years ago

I won't be at the con this year. I'm still working short term gigs and can't justify the expense.

 

kevin.p.roche  2 years ago

Like I said, I've emailed CC38 with a request, since with Mera not there chairing falls to me.

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Also sent to the channel

 

kevin.p.roche  2 years ago

I have confirmed with CC38 that we will have extra power and  a projector (in case we need it) for the annual meeting.